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Posted by Jimbo, on 2005-07-26 14:47:44

Hi, Questions About Snowy Set.

Hi, Well 2 of my friends and me are trying to make a detailed snow set for one of are claymations, We have some questions about how to make the set, We have the base of the set made out of cardbored and we just bought some chicken wire and such, Our question is what should we put over the chiken wire after we are done with all the basic hills and landscape of the set? , Our first thought was basic paper mache over it, But thought that might not work. So if anyone has any comments that may help us it would be greatly appreciated. Thanx again, and you can expect many more post from us. -thanx :-)

Posted by Strider, on 2005-07-26 17:13:27

Hi Jimbo, There are of course a number of ways to do it. Paper mache would work as long as you don't need to support much weight on it. Another option would be some burlap and plaster. You can see how Jason Gottleib did this on his production log starting on this page: http://www.mindoverpixels.com/ths_6.html If you want to create a set floor that's strong enough (and thin enough) to support puppets and that you can drill tie-down holes through, you can use fiberglass cloth and plaster, the way Nick Hilligoss does it.

Posted by minieffects, on 2005-10-11 21:58:02

I know its probably a bit late for your project, however we tend to use low pile carpet remnents layed over a wood frame or blocks of bead foam. This works for most landscapes and if you can find carpet that is close the final color that helps. As far as snow I used salt and baking soda for the snow and coated styrofoam blocks with steric acid (a type of wax flakes) that you melt in a pot on a hot plate. If you add a little blue food coloring it makes the ice blocks have that bluish glow when two blocks are close together. Hope this all helps all the best minieffects

Posted by minieffects, on 2005-10-11 22:21:18

here is a link to a supplier of steric acid. http://www.naturesgardencandles.com/candlemaking-soap-supplies/item/ca-3

Posted by motion_station, on 2005-08-02 04:32:42

How about some Polystirine Cut up? I know that worked well for one of my animations. It also makes great snow for your guy to fall face down in. :D

Posted by stopmoanimatior, on 2005-08-31 20:23:36

I highly advise you look up information on how the ILM crew did their snow scenery for the Hoth system. I know they used baking soda for snow and the base was wood but as far as hills and such I am not sure. But take my advise and check it out. ;) stopmoanimatior

Posted by Nick H, on 2005-08-31 23:45:12

Tiny polystyrene bits make great falling snow if shot live against black, then composited in. But not for snow lying on the ground, if you touch it, or even breathe on it, it will fly away! Salt or sugar both make good snowdrifts. So does baking soda. I used salt for the sparkle you get. A few spray of water make it partly set into a crust. This is salt building up a little more each frame, over a plaster and chickenwire cliff, with a painted backdrop behind: http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL65/42706/59496/91032228.jpg The styrene falling snow was shot at 24 fps, it's so light it falls slowly, and if you wave a piece of card you can make it react to gusts of wind. It was added later. The icicles are clear perspex, and were made to grow with replacement animation.