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Posted by Eric Scott, on 2005-02-04 22:50:22

Water Effects: WIND in the WILLOWS

I finally picked up a copy of WIW on DVD. It's one of my favorites. I was wondering what sort of techniques were used for the water scenes. There are a couple of shots of real water for splashes etc. but for the most part it looks like some sort of gel?? In the first pic (in the video anyway) you can see the current moving from left to right. Whatever the stuff is, it looks great. At one point, MOLE trails his fingers along in it. I love the lens flare effect. How was that obtained? The reflections, ripples, all very well done. There is a real sense of depth in some of the scenes. There's a sequence with ducks going underwater too. It was wonderful to see this one again. Eric Scott

Posted by Strider, on 2005-02-04 22:58:49

Yeah, Wind in the Willows is really excellently done. I can't tell, but from the pics you posted, it looks like, at least in the last 2 shots, the boat is in real water. I guess you could have it somehow attached at the bottom, some kind of rig similar to a jointed arm, or even just a wad of non-drying plumbers putty (not plumbers epoxy putty). But the first shot looks like something different. I say that because it has ripples or waves on it, while the others are completely flat. Maybe Barry will stop by sometime and can answer?

Posted by jamesride101, on 2005-02-05 15:57:26

I dont realy know how the first shot with the water moving to the right was done, but it cinda looks like they used the real water like in the rest of the shots posted, but with plastic wrap being draged on the surface a litle bit for each frame. It looks like the wrap was randomly wrinkled and maybe even painted/brushed with something transparent.

Posted by Satoshi, on 2005-02-27 14:45:44

Loved that scene... Just the surrealness of all the ducks formation swimming amid the lens flares... brilliant animation! hehe so i was bored after reading this... kinda got on photoshop a bit.. maybe... lol Hope u like:D

Posted by Eric Scott, on 2005-02-05 20:01:41

That's an interesting idea (plastic wrap). I was thinking more along the lines of using wallpaper paste in place of real water. It can be mixed kinda thick and colored with food coloring or paints. You could use a spatula to sculpt in ripples on the surface like icing on a cake. If it's thick enough, it might hold the shape long enough to take a frame. Eric Scott

Posted by lot249, on 2005-02-09 14:14:25

Hey Eric, I just got the WIW not to long ago also, there is a great section where he talks about the gel they used for water, something the animators came up with. I also remember him saying that it smelled awful during all those water shoots. thew

Posted by Eric Scott, on 2005-02-09 20:24:56

Thanks! I haven't got to the interview yet. I'll check it out. :7 Eric Scott

Posted by Strider, on 2005-02-28 04:46:20

Hah! Great job... very nicely done. One thing does bug me slightly about it.... the lighting on the puppets comes from above while your light source is from bottom right. Not a big deal, and I know you didn't ask for critique, but I just can't help myself! :P Really good Photoshop work though, and a funny concept! :7

Posted by Satoshi, on 2005-05-04 04:01:48

Heh, thanks alot. yeah i see what u mean bout the light... couldnt figure how to change the lighting source though... nvm. Think i may have to try editing some of the video to matrix adverts or something, could be interesting:9

Posted by Eric Scott, on 2005-02-28 15:28:44

My previous post didn't show up x( Nice! I like the concept. Just imagine the fight scenes to reclaim Toad Hall. That would be fun. :) Eric Scott