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Posted by hjmash, on 2008-06-15 04:53:24
I would Like to make a Complete Alien Set.
Im makeing a alien movie like from the Movie "Alien" i would like some tips on what to use how to use and anything really this is my first Stop Motion so i wanna do an okay job.
this is a list of the sets i want
-Ocean Beach Near jungle
I spare no expense and i will pay for any mats the people would like to sell me
Posted by B and B Studios, on 2008-06-15 12:11:38
You can find lots of useful information in the Handbook, located in the gray nav bar. I would start there, then if you can't find exactly what you need then come on back and ask people like me, Castlegardener, Strider, and Nick H.
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Posted by Nofby, on 2008-06-15 12:32:53
Actually Ethan, I'm sure others will be glad to contribute too.
For the Alien set, take a look in the http://www.stopmotionanimation.com/handbook/10.htm ('building sets') section of the handbook. (The handbook link is in the grey strip at the very top of the page.
Posted by hjmash, on 2008-06-15 14:06:01
Well in there theres notheing im really looking for im looking for like a space a starsship and stuff like that a jungle lots of stuff that isnt in the handbook.
Posted by B and B Studios, on 2008-06-15 19:10:33
Actually Ethan, I'm sure others will be glad to contribute too.For the Alien set, take a look in the http://www.stopmotionanimation.com/handbook/10.htm ('building sets') section of the handbook. (The handbook link is in the grey strip at the very top of the page.
Well I was going to help, but I had to go back to work so I didn't have time to answer. I could help him out, because at the moment I'm working on a short series that may be for Cartoon Network that takes place in space and involves an entire alien race.
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Posted by castlegardener, on 2008-06-15 14:15:53
first thing, do an internet search for some pictures of stuff that looks like what you want to build. Save these in a folder until you have enough. Once you find some, start looking around to see what looks like parts of your picture. We need to know what tools you have access to, to help you figure out how to make your sets.
For your first few films you might be better off to pick two sets and work on those instead of so many others. Set building takes a lot of effort so if you reduce the number you can spend more time on the two and make them a lot better. Take a look at my films, they almost all have only two sets in it. But take a look at some of the props laying around in the background. The more detail you can add, the better they look. Pick one prop and then ask us about that and we can be more specific with our tips.
Posted by hjmash, on 2008-06-15 19:47:52
I just need some help on what stuff i should use with what tools and what Matterials
Posted by castlegardener, on 2008-06-15 20:00:07
what tools do you have access to? Do you have a steak knife and a hacksaw or do you have access to a full wood shop or somewhere in between?
Most props can be done with cardboard and scissors and some glue or styrofoam and a razor knife and some paint. Give us an idea of one setting or one prop and then we can go from there.
Posted by hjmash, on 2008-06-16 00:35:43
i have an entire fucking work shop lol:+
Posted by Nick H, on 2008-06-16 02:15:55
Making a piece of alien machinery, or a 1930's couch, or a gothic cathedral are essentially the same - think of the shape you want, break it down into sections you can cut out or sand into shape, work out which bits are better sculpted from clay and cast in a hard material.
When I did a spaceship interior, I made up some basic shapes, like the circular doorway, from heavy card, with thin mdf around the arch. But I also used a lot of junk that had good detailing on it. Some vacformed packaging, some old plastic bottles, bits of plastic toys cut up, some corrugated hose. Things that look hi-tech, but can become something else. ($2 Cans of styling mousse can be great air tanks, or oxy-acetylene tanks, for example.)
If you have a bandsaw and a drillpress you can make most of the simpler shapes that define the layout of your set, then just add bits of detailing.
The same approach was used for a robot - a mix of metal armature legs, bits of mdf, and bits of toys stuck on, with a body made of an oval hand cream jar and it's round top. Just look for stuff with good shapes.
I re-used what was left of my spaceshiop interior, and the robot puppet, for a tiedowns tutorial:
Posted by Woolly Monster, on 2008-06-18 09:12:57
As has already been mentioned, you can build a set out of almost anything - I think it all depends on the look you are going for, and the materials you are most comfortable working with.
I tend to use junk. Pound shops/dollar stores (depends what country you live in) are some of the best places to buy stuff that can be turned into scenery - artificial plants, tubs of coloured gravel, really bizarre kids toys, strange plastic things that you don't even know what they are... Once you've glued bits together and painted it to be a robot/computer/spaceship, nobody will ever know it was made from parts of the 'little princess vanity play set'.
I just finished building an alien planet surface set out of paper-mache 'clay' (shredded newspaper left to soak a PVA glue and water), and lots of random junk. I've covered some of the processes in my blog, the link is at the bottom of this post.
Posted by Strider, on 2008-06-19 00:04:00
For a lab or the interior (or exterior for that matter) of a space ship that styrofoam packing material you find in shipping boxes when you get a stereo or a TV is great!
Posted by youneekusername, on 2008-06-19 18:21:11
Seems like a very ambitious first stop motion short. But if you really take your time with it i'm sure you'll look back on it as a great first film!
What to use: anything you can get your hands on or afford!
You'll find that once you start putting a set or two together they really can be made out of almost anything. It all depends on the look you're after and how much money you want to spend. You might be surprised how awesome looking some everyday objects can be with a few coats of paint. First think of the shape and design you want for a prop, then imagine what objects have that shape. If you can't think of anything you might have to make it from scratch (out of clay, wood, cardboard, foamboard, etc.)
Added: When making sets try to visualize what you want the viewer to see and what you don't want them to see. This will help you concentrate more on the important parts of the set and make it a little easier when it comes time to film the scene.