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Posted by jordanuk, on 2008-05-07 10:12:49

Please help i need Royal Mail Pillar Box

im really stuck for this one, i thought a British royal mail pillar box would look great on my set, but i cant find any the right size. or how the heck can make one!!! picture of modern pilalr box atatched below my character is 10cm high roughly :) hope somebody can help please. also how can i make plastic/wooden signs look rusty & also how can i weather some shop signs :)



Posted by I_make_cartoons, on 2008-05-07 10:55:19

you get little coin saving banks that look like them try gift shops? but fill in the coin slot first huh? -marc ---- does it count as work if you enjoy it?

Posted by castlegardener, on 2008-05-07 13:44:24

if you make one, start with a wooden dowel the right size and build up the details from that. Little bits of putty or clay will allow you to sculpt the details. Let all of that dry, then paint to match.

Posted by Nick H, on 2008-05-07 19:20:46

I have a plastic piggybank thing like that, which suits 1:6 scale, and I've seen smaller ones in shops that are about right for your scale. Not sure what scale that would be, it's pretty small. Maybe even a model shop with railway stuff? But to make one: Work out the scale. Measure one, and convert to the scale of set you are making. Find a cylinder the right diameter - could be dowel, or cardboard tube, plastic pipe, whatever. If you can't find one, roll some card into a cylinder. Maybe find a lid to something, a bit bigger around, with a knurled edge, for the top. Could be from a cosmetics jar, could be anything. Try the $2 shop (One pound shop, do you have those?) Just look for shapes. Use putty to round off the top. Or plaster. Whatever you have for making irregular shapes. (Or even plasticine. You can paint over it.) Cut a rectangular hole in the cylinder where the letters go in. Build up the sticky-out bit with cardboard, wood, car filler, or epoxy putty. The coat of arms in relief could be cut out of thin card, stuck on, then build up with drops of pva (white glue) and allowed to dry. That will give a rounded surface.

Posted by jordanuk, on 2008-05-08 08:09:21

thanks for teh reply guys, i live in a tourist area "york" uk and i found that everywhere did tehse miniature pencil sharpeners! so i got one it looks fab now the only problem is i think it looks too "new" and the letter slot is filled in. the pillar box is thin sheet metal mayabe i should open up the slot?. can anyone help with the making stuff look rusty & also how to make wooden signs slighly old but not classic old.

Posted by emmyymme, on 2008-05-08 09:02:11

My favourite way of antiquing wood is to apply a little dark stain (mahogany usually) to the edges or cracks - let it set about half an hour, then lightly sand it off. More will stay in the cracks and slightly age it a bit. Cracking medium could work as well. As for the mailboxes - look around at the ones outside - usually it's dents, faded colours, dirt that makes them look old - you could add the coin slot (if you think you can without caving it in) then sand off a few tiny edges to take down the paint, or paint over with a very thin wash of grey or brown to fade it out a little bit. There are fake rust mediums but a reddish-brown wash works well in the cracks.

Posted by Nofby, on 2008-05-08 11:55:34

Hey are you a member from the Aardman website? I visit a little and your username sounds familiar..... To get a wooden effect for a sign create the basic shape first before you start any fancy painting or washing. You can use epoxy putty, wood or even cardboard for a rigid base. To paint it I would give it a thin wash of a yellowish marmite colour. Then use some watery light brown to swipe over the surface creating a streaky effect. You can use wood-stain too but you can create the same look with a reddish-brown wash. If I were you I would have created a post box so it wouldn't look odd in your animation. From your signature about the Aardman website you say 'the best'. Obviously you must be into clay! In your case you could have just used a cardboard tube or plumbers pipe for a cylinder shape and covered it with paper mache and then a layer of plasticine. It would keep in look of your film.

Posted by jordanuk, on 2008-05-09 12:23:54

as ive said already i have already got the post box :) and it looks very cool, also after doing animation for 8 years i wouldnt use paper mache for a post box.... just would look a kid has made it at school no offence and wouldnt look right at all, this is my best set yet and the detail is amazing right down to the Roof Slates (which is real slate :) )

Posted by Nofby, on 2008-05-09 13:33:02

Ok, ok!! No need to get touchy! Paper mache isin't pre-school, as you seem to imply. Its a good way of building up your subject and can work very well. Many animators here use it on a professional level! As I said, you would have to have a base to mache onto like a tube or pipe. Its normally best to create your own props to keep in style for your film. "just would look a kid has made it at school no offence and wouldnt look right at all," If done right, that is not the case at all! You can build a shape up and add detail afterwards. "after doing animation for 8 years" Even if you have been,even experienced animators use it. Shelley Noble is using it very much in her film. As am I for a base layer under plaster.

Posted by connorgorman, on 2008-05-10 04:42:06

Try and make on :-)

Posted by I_make_cartoons, on 2008-05-10 09:56:53

yeah Its great for building up background (hills etc.) without being too heavy. plus, its really cheap too ;) -marc ---- does it count as work if you enjoy it?