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Posted by manu, on 2008-04-23 01:41:42
ICE on the set
i´m at the beginning of planning out a new stopmotoin short.
we have a scene in an empty room that is old and full of ice.
it should look like a winter scene, ice on the floor (the puppet can´t walk, he is slipping),
maybe some ice cubes, too.
i´m very glad about any idea how to get this kind of look.
thanks very much!
Posted by Strider, on 2008-04-23 02:22:06
Simplest thing I can think of offhand.... sheets of plexiglass with white powder glued on around the edges or white spraypaint. That could then be scraped off where you don't want it.
Aside from that you'd almost have to go to translucent/transparent silicones or resins, which gets pretty expensive and finnicky to work with.
Or if transparency isn't an issue, then just build up ice forms with plaster or something.
Posted by manu, on 2008-04-23 02:32:36
oh...thanks for the quick response!
i will try out some material i can find here...
Posted by leevi, on 2008-04-23 05:13:04
You could also try 3-part polyester resin. It will get from liquid form to hard in 15min. It's strong enough for tiedown holes.
Warning! VERY smelly. The whole building will smell, and it's toxic. DO not do it home. I made that mistake once. It's similar stuff that the glass fibre boats are made of. And exactly the same smell.
Strider: All of the sets in Nasdravicko was covered with polyester :o
Posted by Strider, on 2008-04-23 06:24:11
Wow! I did NOT know this!
Another thing I thought of.... if you were to use plexiglass, you could put a coating of transparent glue (Elmer's or whatever) to give it a random icy surface, so it doesn't look smooth like plexiglass.
Of course, with any kind of transparent material you can't use tiedowns, you'd have to support puppets from a rig and erase it. I think I'd go with frosty white snow-looking stuff and fill holes with white modeling clay.
Posted by Nofby, on 2008-04-23 13:11:14
Mike and leevi have already explained about materials,but a good way of creating liquidy ice is to use some petroleum jelly ( cold, so dosen't get too slimy)
Posted by Isomer, on 2008-04-23 21:48:44
The best ice making material is clear acrylic, it's very easy to cut and polish into any shape you desire. All you need is some acrylic, a Dremel tool and a fine toothed saw.
Rough cut the acrylic into the basic shape you want and use a griding bit on the Dremel to sculpt the more refined shapes. Use a sanding drum on your Dremel to bring the texture down to a finer grain and then follow with a grit impregnated rubber disk bit (they make many differently shaped bits) to polish the surface to a matte but smooth finish.
When you buff that with a buffing wheel with their white buffing compound, it will go over completely clear and glossy.
Posted by Strider, on 2008-04-23 23:23:31
Ah yes..... the old shaped acrylic trick! You can also smooth the surface with a torch (quick passes, very light touch!) or a heat gun (paint stripping gun) after sanding to relative smoothness.
Posted by Woolly Monster, on 2008-04-28 11:22:16
You can buy fake plastic ice cubes from joke shops and online suppliers. I suppose you could mix some of these in with the shaped acrylic ice suggested above, saving you a bit of work.
A friend of mine used joke shop ice cubes to shoot some advertising photos for an ice making company recently, and nobody could tell they weren't real.