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Posted by little SMURF, on 2006-05-08 22:20:49
need urgent help with set advice!
me and my friends have made the set designs and started the vehicles for the set....the set itself is about 3.6 metres long and it consists of five houses in a row with their front gardens,footpaths,aswell as a 2 lane road with working street lights and all the vehichles have lights 2.......but just wondering if u guys can give advice,suggestions and oh ya i forgot to mention up top ,we can only spend about $500 on this film set please help us to evolve and make this set better..thanks! :-)
Posted by Strider, on 2006-05-08 23:57:12
What kind of advice are you looking for? On making the terrain, or maybe the buildings? On building the entire set itself? We don't know what you're looking for here.... help yourselves by helping us pin down what you need to know. 90% of solving a problem is defining precisely what the problem is... when you've got that nailed, solutions have a way of presenting themselves.
Posted by LEWIMATIONS, on 2006-05-09 16:18:36
Have you built the base of the set yet?
Because you need a good sturdy base before you can start building any of your gardens, footpaths or whatever...
You've got quite a reasonable budget so you should be able to make a nice set if you do all you're planning first!!
Posted by Nick H, on 2006-05-09 01:17:53
Yeah, like he said.
Also, we don't know what the set looks like now. So, better than what?
Posted by little SMURF, on 2006-05-10 00:55:08
;-) well i was sort of hoping for some general advice on making the houses:-)
Posted by little SMURF, on 2006-05-10 00:51:31
yes i do have a base(a flimsy piece of ply .....but the over all filming will have the base bieng sat on a sturdy table...so yes it will be stable,for the garden grass we r using the GAMES WORKSHOP static grass and i am sending away for sometextured road and brick sheets.
Posted by Nick H, on 2006-05-11 02:37:36
Is this street set for animating your puppets on, or is it a small scale set where you only want to have cars driving along? If it's for puppets, it needs a sturdy base that you can drill holes in. It's fine to build up sidewalks with a layer of thin ply, but underneath there needs to be a solid base. If it's only cars, you don't need to drill tie-down holes, so you can put it on top of a table.
What scale is your set?
When I did a street with houses, there was a 1:24 scale set with houses and cars, and a separate 1:6 scale set that suited my puppets. The big scale set was just part of one of the houses in the small scale set. Both were needed to tell the story.
The methods for building them depend a bit on the size. Some of the little houses could be a strip of cardboard folded into a rectangle for the walls. Corugated iron roofing can be made from corrugated card from a craft shop, just use a scale rule to work out which size is right. I could cut out the windows and doors with a snap-off knife. If the house was distant, the weatherboard or brick pattern could be inkjet printed on paper. But the big scale houses were made from 16mm thick particle board and needed a jigsaw to cut out windows. Sometimes they didn't need a roof, because it was out of shot. Weatherboards were overlapping strips of 3mm ply or balsa wood. Both sets were about 3 metres wide, (because that's all the space I had) but they were different scales so the materials and methods were different.
What tools do you have to work with?
Posted by Strider, on 2006-05-11 00:30:21
You're starting to get closer, but the questions are still too vague.... there's no way to answer them without us having to ask more questions first to narrow things down.
What kind of house.... brick, clapboard, stucco? Log cabin, chateau, mansion, shack?
Some really basic advice....
most likely you can get away with just making a front, one side wall and the side of the roof that will show. That's if you're only going to show it from a limited perspective though... if the camera is going to move around to the other side you'll have to build that too.
Basically you start by making a framework of some kind... wood is strong and easy to work with. Then you detail over that. Get yourself a glue gun (fabricator's best friend) and you won't need to worry about nails or screws. You can cut little lengths of square wood stock or aluminum angle stock that work as corner brackets..... glue some of these down on your table and hen stand the front wall against them and glue it to them. Then do the same to attach side walls to the front wall... kind of hard to explain.
If you're making a clapboard house you'll do well to get some basswood strips like the kind sold at [u][b][a href="http://www.nationalbalsa.com/products.htm"]National Balsa[/a][/b][/u].
For more tips, check the stebuilding section of the Handbook. There are some links there to threads where Nick explained lots of great stuff on the subject.