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Posted by captainfullet, on 2006-01-02 20:12:42
My side street set
Hi guys, I alluded to this set in the "Making Bricks..." thread, but I thought I would post to its own thread in order to get some feedback on it. It's supposed to be a side street type deal, sidewalk with a brick building behind. The street is meant to be kind of overgrown, which I tried to do with the vine and knarled tree. Any and all feedback would be appreciated, as this is my first set!
The picture below is at an angle, showing more than will appear in the final shot
It will appear more like this in the actual film (gloomier, of course)
Posted by Strider, on 2006-01-03 01:55:02
It's got a nice cartoony look to it. Even so, I think I'd put some dark washes on it to [i]"dirty it up"[/i] a little... mix a little acrylic paint or ink with some water (a lot of water, just a little pigment) and just scrub it on with a big brush or a sponge or something. I'm afraid the really bright colors will be pretty distracting for a background.
What's that at the bottom... sand? Looks good. If you'd build it up some more it will completely cover the bottom edge of the wall, and make everything look more solid and real.
Careful with those plants.... they're going to wither and wilt on you, and since you'll be shooting a frame every few minutes or so, it will happen in fast motion in your film. It'll look like a time lapse shot of dying vines! You might want to find some leaves that are already dead and all dried up, and paint them green.
Posted by DaveHettmer, on 2006-01-03 11:48:19
The link above has some shots of a stage set with [b]painted[/b] bricks. There was nothing 3D about them. These have a lot more detail than you want, but a couple of pointers that would help take the edge off:
- Have the bricks vary slightly in color, in particular make som a slightly darker browner red.
- Like Mike sez, apply a wash to the bricks and the mortar.
- Use a sponge to apply some texture. This is different than the wash Mike talked about. Use the sponge as a texture stamp.
- Your bricks are already 3D, so you won't need to paint drop shadows.
Posted by captainfullet, on 2006-01-03 16:31:07
thanks for all the feedback! As far as painting the bricks to "dimensionalize" them, I did paint the edges a bit darker color in order to make them pop out more, and it looks like that painted set took that to the extreme. The different colors thing makes sense, as does the wash. As for the sponging for texture, would I do that while I was painting the red onto the bricks? The mortar is already textured (its actually tile grout), so I assume that's what you mean. I actually realized the thing about the different colors today as I was looking at brick buildings. I noticed that they weren't the "red" as I painted them, but rather a series of different reddish browns. Ah well, there's always next time, and that wash should help tone them down as well. As far as what Mike said about building the dirt up more, I hadn't even noticed that you can see the bottom edge of the styrofoam, so thanks! And about the plants, I think I can get some fake vines from a craft store (even though brown vines wouldn't be too terrible bad). Again, thanks for the feedback!
Posted by DaveHettmer, on 2006-01-03 20:37:48
> As for the sponging for texture, would I do that while I was painting the red onto the bricks? The mortar is already textured (its actually tile grout), so I assume that's what you mean.
Texture with the sponge whatever needs it. Sufficiently flat lighting will make any fine texture in the grout disappear. Put a base color coat on the bricks and then use a slightly different brick color with sponges (probably darker) that's been watered down but isn't so watery that it's a wash.
Posted by captainfullet, on 2006-01-03 22:13:54
I see. Thanks again for all the feedback! I didn't realize how much could actually be done, texturewise with a mixture of paints and real textures. That set of yours really showed what can be done with some attention to detail and paint. Thanks to all!